Saturday Sabbath? Or Lunar Sabbath?


People in love do everything in their power to please the one they love. This is the natural reaction of the heart that loves. It is not viewed as a duty, but a joy and privilege! This is what the true Sabbath means to all who love their Maker and wish to honor Him. At the very start of the world, the seventh-day was set apart as a day to rest and worship the Creator. Those who value the care showered on them by a loving heavenly Father, want to obey Him and worship Him on the true Sabbath day.

The question then arises: "Which day is the Bible Sabbath? Which day is the true seventh-day Sabbath of Scripture?" There are many different, widely-held beliefs regarding when to worship. Three of these views are as follows:

1.Many people believe that there is no need for a specific day of rest since Yahuwah should be worshipped every day.

2.Saturday sabbatarians believe that because Saturday is the last day of the modern seven-day week, it must be the true seventh-day Sabbath. Because modern weeks cycle continuously, they believe Saturday has come down uninterrupted from Creation as the true seventh-day Sabbath.

3.Still others believe that an accumulation of Biblical and historical evidence reveals that the true Sabbath can only be found by using the luni-solar calendar used in Bible times.

While it is true that one should worship every day, the sovereign of the Universe Himself expressly commanded that on the seventh-day, labor is to be set aside and special time spent with Him. The Sabbath is not just a day of worship. It is also specifically a day of no labor. Yahuwah even stated that the Sabbath is a sign between Himself and His children forever. This article will consider the evidence for whether the true Sabbath is a "Saturday Sabbath" or what is called a "lunar Sabbath."

"There is no excuse for anyone in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years . . . is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation." Councils to Writers and Editors, p. 35

For all who want to know truth, there comes a time when the way divides. Personal prejudice, tradition and preconceived ideas should have no standing in the mind of one wanting to know "the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth." If the seeker for truth will study with an open mind, being willing to obey what is revealed if he is convicted that it istruth, then truth will be revealed to his mind and he need not remain in error. This is what is required of all who would study the subject of the lunar Sabbath.

Scripture reveals that the entire conflict between the Creator and Satan is contained in The Battle Over Worship. It is a war for the mind of every man, woman and child alive today. Therefore, it would be wise for everyone on earth to examine this subject for themselves. All should study and know for sure whether the true day of worship is a Saturday Sabbath or a Lunar Sabbath.

Solar? Lunar? or Lunar-Solar?If it is important to worship on a specific day (the Sabbath) than it is of vital importance that the correct method of counting be used to find that day. In other words, the correct calendar must be used. Time can only be measured by movement. There are three main types of calendars:

◦Solar calendar (The modern civil calendar, the Gregorian calendar, is a solar calendar.)
◦Lunar calendar (The religious calendar used by Muslims is a lunar calendar.)
◦Luni-solar calendar (This is also sometimes called the Lunar-Solar calendar.)
History and archeology reveal that all ancient civilizations used luni-solar calendars. While the Egyptians were the first to adopt a strictly solar calendar, their original calendar was also a lunar-solar calendar. This ancient and highly accurate method of time calculation ties lunar months to the solar year by some observable point in nature.

The movement of the sun, moon and stars are the only accurate measurement of time. Even with modern atomic clocks, all time is measured by the cycles of the heavenly bodies. Days and years are both measured by the rotation of light as viewed from the earth.

A solar year is 365 days long. The lunar year is 11 days shorter than the solar year. Thus, the dates of a strictly lunar calendar float through the seasons of the solar year. Various cultures that used a lunar-solar calendar, anchored the lunar months to different points in the solar year. Some, like the ancient Egyptians, used the rising of the star, Sirius, at the time of the summer solstice. Others, such as the Aztecs and the Maya, used the winter solstice for their new year. More recently, when France adopted a different calendar during the French Revolution, their year briefly began at the autumn equinox.

Historical evidence shows that by far the majority of ancient calendars began their year in the spring, at or near the time of the spring (vernal) equinox. The Israelites also used a luni-solar calendar and began their year in the spring. Both their annual feasts and the seventh-day Sabbath were calculated by the lunar-solar calendar that had been established by the Creator at the very beginning of the world.

The Lunar Sabbath in Scripture
The Creator's calendar is a vitally important tool for finding the true seventh-day Sabbath which contains the "seal of God." Sometimes called the mark of God, it is, more accurately, the seal of Yahuwah: one's pledge of loyalty to the Creator. Scripture reveals that at Creation, both the sun and the moon were given to provide light as well as the means for marking the passage of time. The modern solar calendar does not use the moon for keeping time. Nor does the Hindu or the Muslim lunar calendar use the sun. Only the ancient lunar-solar calendar meets the criteria of using both the sun and the moon in its system of time-keeping.

Many people who keep the feast days listed in Leviticus 23 still observe a Saturday sabbath. They believe that the lunar-solar calendar was used only for the yearly feasts, but that Saturday of the modern solar calendar has come down in a continuous weekly cycle ever since Creation. But this is two different methods of time-keeping! Nowhere in Scripture are two separate and distinct systems of time-keeping mentioned. At Creation, one calendar was established and it required the use of both the sun and the moon.

And . . . [Yahuwah] said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And . . . [Yahuwah] made two great lights; . . . [And He] set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. (Genesis 1:14-18, KJV.)

Right in this passage, in the very first chapter of the first book of the Bible, the principle is established that the two great lights were to be used for marking the time for worship and as a sign, or mark of loyalty to the Creator. The word translated "signs" comes from the Hebrew word ôwth, which means a sign or mark. "This word represents something by which a person or group is characteristically marked. . . . The word means 'sign' as a reminder of one's duty." (See #226, The New Strong's Expanded Dictionary of Bible Words.)

The Sabbath is the sign by which the Creator's people are marked and set apart as different from all others on earth. The Hebrew word that is translated "seasons" is even more revealing. It is the word mo'ed. It is the use of this word that reveals the true Sabbath of Creation is a lunar Sabbath. Mo'ed is the word used specifically to refer to the annual feasts.

Since the Jewish festivals occurred at regular intervals, this word becomes closely identified with them . . . Mo'ed is used in a broad sense for all religious assemblies. It was closely associated with the tabernacle itself . . . [Yahuwah] met Israel there at specific times for the purpose of revealing His will. It is a common term for the worshiping assembly of . . . [Yahuwah's] people. (See #4150, "Lexical Aids to the Old Testament," Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible, KJV.)

Far from presenting two different systems of time-keeping, Scripture presents only one: the lunar-solar calendar by which the annual feasts as well as the seventh-day Sabbath, a lunar Sabbath, are to be calculated. Leviticus 23 is a listing of the holy feasts of Yahuwah. From the Spring Anniversaries to the Fall Feasts, Leviticus 23 delineates them all out. But the very first "feast" listed is the weekly feast: the seventh-day Sabbath.

And . . . [Yahuwah] spoke unto Moses, saying, "Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: 'The feasts of . . . [Yahuwah], which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts. Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of . . . [Yahuwah] in all your dwellings." (Leviticus 23:1-3)

From there, Yahuwah went on to list the annual feasts (or mo'edim) but the very first feast He gave was the seventh-day Sabbath.

Lunar Sabbath: A holy day of rest, it is the seventh and last day of each week in a lunation. The weekly cycle restarts with the observation of the first visible crescent moon. Four complete weeks follow New Moon Day.

Psalm 104:19 is yet another witness from Scripture that the seventh-day Sabbath is to be calculated by the moon: "He appointed [created] the moon for seasons." The word here translated "seasons" is, again, mo'edim. The Biblical record is consistent: there is only one method of time-keeping presented in scripture. That is the lunar-solar calendar established by Yahuwah Himself at Creation. This calendar establishes all of the times appointed for worship, the mo'edim. The only Sabbath in scripture is a lunar Sabbath.

The Lunar-Solar Calendar of Scripture
The lunar-solar calendar begins each month with the observance of the first visible crescent of the moon in the western sky after sunset. The very next day is called New Moon Day and it is numbered as the first of the month. (For use of the term "New Moon" in Scripture, see: I Samuel 20:5, 18 & 24; 2 Kings 4:23; Psalm 81:3; Isaiah 66:23; Ezekiel 46:1; and Amos 8:5.)

On the ancient calendar, the seventh-day Sabbath always falls on the same dates of every month. This is a feature of the lunar-solar calendar and the true lunar Sabbath.

On the Biblical lunar-solar calendar, each lunation (or lunar month) always begins with a New Moon day, which is in a class of worship day all by itself. Six work days follow on the second through seventh of the month. The seventh-day Sabbath always falls on the 8th, the 15th, the 22nd and the 29th of every lunar month. This is the reason it is called a lunar Sabbath.

Scripture itself supports this calendar configuration. Every time the seventh-day Sabbath is given a numbered date in the Bible, it always falls on the 8th, the 15th, the 22nd or the 29th of the month. Either the actual date itself is assigned or contextual dates and other details consistently allow for that extrapolation. For example, the story of the Exodus from Egypt contains specific dates and details for three months in a row, all of which have the seventh-day Sabbath falling on the 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th for each month! These calendar details were confirmed 40 years later at the time of Joshua and again at the crucifixion of the Saviour on Passover.

As mentioned previously, the lunar year is shorter than the solar year and without some means of anchoring the lunar months to the solar year, the seasons would float through the calendar. Yahuwah's method of tying the lunar year to the longer solar year was a beautiful reminder that all their needs were provided for by the loving Creator. Instead of using the spring (or vernal) equinox, the Israelites were to use the ripened barley harvest. Yahuwah sent the "early rain" in the fall for the seed to germinate, and then the "latter rain" was sent in the last month to bring the grain to full maturity. Without rain, there would be no harvest. Thus, the minds of the people were directed to the loving care of their Maker and their hearts filled with gratitude as they recognized His tender care for them.

The true New Year could not begin until after the old solar year had finished. Thus, every two to three years, an extra thirteenth month was intercalated into the year. This was called an embolismic year, because an entire additional month was added to bring the lunations back into alignment with the seasons. Ezekiel provides scriptural proof for the thirteenth month used in embolismic years.

The lunar-solar calendar of Creation is the most accurate method of time-keeping. It is elegant, precise. It is divinely designed time-keeping. Jeremiah 31:35 refers to Yahuwah giving the "ordinances" (or laws) of the moon. The ordinances of divine time-keeping are so simple that the shepherd on the hillside can be as accurate by observation, as the astronomer in his observatory is by calculation. Even the count to Pentecost, which has long confused people because the two specifics of the count seem contradictory, can be accurately figured only by using the lunar-solar calendar.

Jews and the Lunar Sabbath
While it is true that the Jews today worship on a Saturday sabbath, this does not prove that it is the true Sabbath. They did not always worship on the Saturday sabbath. Jewish scholars are very clear that the original method of calendation was different from the modern calendar and that under intense persecution during the fourth century A.D., the Jews gave up their original lunar-solar calendar with its lunar Sabbath. Declaring the new month by observation of the new moon, and the new year by the arrival of spring, can only be done by the Sanhedrin. In the time of Hillell II [4th century C.E.], the last President of the Sanhedrin, the Romans prohibited this practice. Hillel II was therefore forced to institute his fixed calendar, thus in effect giving the Sanhedrin's advance approval to the calendars of all future years. ("The Jewish Calendar and Holidays (incl. Sabbath)": The Jewish Calendar; Changing the Calendar,, emphasis supplied.)

Once the ancient lunar-solar calendar had been set aside, knowledge of the true lunar Sabbath was lost with the acceptance of the pagan Julian calendar.

Lunar Sabbath Lost

These stone fragments of an early Julian calendar clearly show an eight-day week. The Israelites did not use the Julian calendar for finding the seventh-day Sabbath. They used the original lunar-solar calendar of Creation to find the lunar Sabbath.

The calendar of the Roman Republic, like that of the Hebrew calendar, was also a lunar-solar calendar. In 45-46 B.C., Julius Cæsar reformed the original Roman calendar and, with the help of an Alexandrian astronomer, Sosigenes, created a new solar calendar with continuously cycling weeks: the Julian calendar. While the Julian calendar was in use at the time of the Messiah, the Israelites did not use it as the early Julian week was eight days long! The Israelites were still using their original lunar solar calendar and worshipping on the seventh day of its week.

From that time, until the fourth century, Israelites and apostolic Christians continued to use the Biblical calendar for their religious observances. With the rising power of the paganized Christians in Rome, this led to a centuries long battle over when to remember the death and resurrection of the Saviour. The Christians in Rome wished to celebrate the Messiah's resurrection on the pagan Easter. Apostolic Christians, on the other hand, wished to commemorate Yahushua's death on the original Passover.

The point of contention appeared deceptively simple: Passover versus Easter. The issues at stake, however, were immense. The only way to determine when Passover occurs is to use the Biblical luni-solar calendar, for only by observing the moon can one count to the 14th day following the first visible crescent. Because the seventh-day Sabbath was also calculated from the first visible crescent, a ruling in favor of Easter being observed on a Julian date would also affect the seventh-day Sabbath. (See Biblical Calendar Outlawed: Constantine and the Council of Nicaea.)

Calendars calculate time and at the Council of Nicæa it was decided to set aside Jewish calculation and adopt the pagan Julian calendar. This effectively destroyed knowledge of the lunar Sabbath and substituted the pagan Saturday Sabbath in its place. Jewish scholars admit this fact, too.

In a colorful description of the Council of Nicæa, Jewish scholar Heinrich Graetz wrote:

At the Council of Nice [sic] the last thread was snapped which connected Christianity to its parent stock. The festival of Easter had up till now been celebrated for the most part at the same time as the Jewish Passover, and indeed upon the days calculated and fixed by the Synhedrion [Sanhedrin] in Judæa for its celebration; but in future its observance was to be rendered altogether independent of the Jewish calendar . . . . (History of the Jews, published by the Jewish Publication Society of America, 1893, Vol. II, see pp. 563-564.)

The Council of Nicæa had the most profound, far reaching effect upon the truth of the lunar Sabbath. To this day Catholic scholars base the authority of the Catholic Church on this act of changing the Sabbath from the lunar Sabbath of the lunar-solar calendar to Sunday on the continuously cycling Julian week. The pagan Julian calendar, legislated into place, an entire counterfeit system of religion. Thus the true lunar Sabbath was buried under centuries of tradition and the assumption that the modern week has cycled continuously ever since Creation.

Repair the Breach: Restore the Lunar Sabbath
Isaiah 58 contains a beautiful prophecy of the work to be performed by the final generation. "And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in." (Isaiah 58:12)

The three angels' messages of Revelation 14 contain a call to worship on the true lunar Sabbath of Scripture.

This is the work of those who have pledged their allegiance to the Creator by worshipping Him on His true holy day, the lunar Sabbath. To repair the hole made in Yahuwah's law, to clear away the rubbish of error and tradition, accumulated from centuries of assumption, is the great work committed to the people of the final generation. Revelation contains a three-fold warning, calling all to "Fear . . . [Yahuwah], and give glory to him . . . and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." (See Revelation 14:6-10.)

This subject is of the utmost importance to all now living. The true Sabbath is the mark of loyalty that distinguishes those who are willing to obey from those who cling to tradition and assumption. All should study the subject of the lunar Sabbath, the facts of calendar history that relate to the lunar Sabbath, and pertinent passages from the Bible. The Battle of Armageddon, like everything else in the long-running war between Yahuwah and Lucifer, is fought on the battlefield of worship.

All who desire to honor their Creator will choose to worship Him on the day that He has blessed and set aside: the seventh day of the week on the lunar-solar calendar, the true lunar Sabbath.

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Comment by Dr. Eric Aschendorf, DD,DCS on August 29, 2012 at 7:37am

Shalom Dr. Smallwood,

I would agree with you that this is non-salvific and I had already stated that I was done with this discussion if Deacon Brown wanted the last word. Back to the issue of Salvific or not; the contention here is that it is salvific in that it is "required" for salvation. It is for that reason that I had to take a stand and contend against this point. The approach presented here implies that one is lost and worshiping a false god if one does not hold worship services on Fri-Sat. There can be no unity of the faith when one group is contending for a "faith by works" and the other is contending for "faith by grace", for one is mutually exclusive of the other.

Comment by Dr. Eric Aschendorf, DD,DCS on August 27, 2012 at 2:11pm

You ask...

"Please explain why Jesus send Paul to be baptized of Ananias, a man who was
"devout according to the law", if there was no law for Christians to keep?"
DUH! He was not yet a Christian. He was still a devout Jew so he kept the "RABBINICAL LAWS". Paul did too in order to win both Jew and Gentile. He did as those who he was winning did. He became all things to all men. Again I say, DUH!

As for your "supposed" nail from Rom 2:13 you really should read and study the entire context as it states...
Rom 2:5. According to your hardness and your unrepentant heart you are storing up for yourself wrath on the Day of wrath and the revelation of God’s righteous judgment   6. Who will reward each according to his works:  7. on the one hand according to the steadfast endurance of good work, glory and honor and immortality to those who seek eternal life,  8. but on the other hand to those who are persuaded out of a desire to put themselves forward, and not allowing themselves to be persuaded in the truth, then they will be in the wrath and fury for their unrighteousness.  9. Trouble and affliction upon every person’s life, the one who performs evil, and first for a Jewish person, then a Greek:  10. but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does what is good, and first for a Jewish person, then a Greek:  11. for there is no partiality before God. (Dt 10:17)  12. For however many sin without Torah, will also perish without Torah, and however many who sin in Torah, will be judged through Torah:  13. for it is not the hearers of Torah who are righteous before God, but those who do the commandments of Torah will be declared righteous.  (Jas 2:14-26)  14. For when heathens, the ones who do not have Torah, would, guided by their natural sense of what is right and proper, do the things of Torah, these who do not have Torah are a Torah to themselves:  15. those who demonstrate that the work of the Torah is written in their hearts, when their conscience, accusing or even excusing, bears witness with them and between one another, as their thoughts will be   16. in the Day when God judges the hidden things of people through Messiah Jesus according to my gospel.

Again, this is a reference to the Jew as a keeper of The Torah. If you desire to be accounted with them then be my guest but you had better erect a temple with all the temple furniture and you had better start your daily, weekly and monthly sacrifices for if you fail to keep even one of the smallest portions of the Rabbinical laws then you are guilty of them all and are living in sin with The Torah teachings. The choice is yours. i am not guilty of your sin.

It is also obvious that all you desire is to argue to prove that the man-made doctrines of your denominational teachings are truth despite the fact that The Scriptures say otherwise. Thus you may have the last word if you like but I did not come to this to argue only to show the fallacy within the original post by way of showing what The Scriptures say.

Mk 7:13. so you make void the Word of God by your tradition  which you had passed on: and you are doing many things such as these.”

James 2:10. For whoever would keep the whole Torah but would stumble in one thing, has become guilty of all.

Be blessed and before it is too late I pray you come to the truth of The Word of YHVH whether by seeing the error of your denominational teachings or by upholding all of The Torah.

Comment by Deacon Marvin Brown on August 26, 2012 at 11:30pm

The following text nails in coffin in the anti-nomian theology:

Romans 2:13:
    For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight,
but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.

Comment by Deacon Marvin Brown on August 26, 2012 at 11:18pm
Dr. Eric:

Please explain why Jesus send Paul to be baptized of Ananias, a man who was
"devout according to the law", if there was no law for Christians to keep?

Also explain how Ananias, "had a good report of all the Jews who dwelt there", and was a "law breaker" as you suggest Christians should be.   Paul had to be a Sabbath keeper, otherwise the Jews would not have considered him as "devout" and of "good report".
The following reference clarifies for us that Annanias was a "practicing Jew" who had received his Messiah.
Vincent's Word Studies
"A devout man", etc
In Acts 9:10, he is called a disciple. Paul here "affirms that he was not introduced to Christianity by an opponent of Judaism, +++but by a strict Jew" (Gloag).+++
If the early Messianic believers were not supposed to keep the Law of God,
But rather to be "lawless" as you suggest, why did Jesus Himself appoint a
"DEVOUT LAW KEEPER" to baptize and teach Paul? The one who baptized another TAUGHT the candidate the faith that they personally practiced, and the candidate BEFORE baptism had to agree to practice what he was taught.
Therefore we undoubtedly  we know Paul kept God's law by his following statements:
Acts 24:14
But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,
+++believing all things which are written in the +++ LAW +++ and in the prophets
Acts 25:8
While he answered for himself, +++Neither against the law of the Jews+++
, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all.

Romans 7: 24 - 25
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind
+++I myself serve the law of God+++

1 Corinthians 7:9
Circumcision (being a Jew) is nothing and uncircumcision (being a Gentile) is nothing.
+++Keeping God's commands+++ is what counts.

Paul either kept God's laws/commandments, as he stated above, or he was a liar....

And of course you have no text indicating anywhere that Paul violated the sanctity of the Sabbath.

And if indeed the book of Hebrews was written by him, he references the "New Covenant" of Jer. 31:33, as being comprised of the TORAH/LAWS, being written in our hearts.
Comment by Dr. Eric Aschendorf, DD,DCS on August 26, 2012 at 11:43am

Shalom Deacon Brown,

You answer your own question.

"Law" is not equal to Torah! The Torah is YHVH's instructions not HIS "law". Those who keep YHVH's commandments do not keep "law" they keep HIS instructions. That is what we do as Believers. We do this in accordance with what was taught to James where we read that...

James 2:10. For whoever would keep the whole Torah but would stumble in one thing, has become guilty of all.   11. For the One Who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder:” but if you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of Torah.  12. So you must continually speak, and so you must act as one going to be judged through the law of freedom.

The concept of "Law" is borne in the growth of the Rabbi's. They added 613 "laws" to the instructions of YHVH. We still uphold the 10 Commandments but we do not do so as "law" which get us into the Heavenlies but as an act of love born through Y'SHUA. Paul expressed it best when he addressed the Galatians concerning the teachings that they would "Have to," (be forced to), be bound by the Jewish "Law". Note that he tells them of only "one" law that they are being told that they "Must" live by just like Shabbat Keepers insist that there is still one "law" that must be kept when he addresses them in this fashion...
Gal 5:2. Behold, I, Paul, say to you that if you would be circumcised, Messiah will profit you nothing.  3. And I am testifying again to every circumcised man that he is obligated to do the whole tradition.  4. You, who are made righteous by legalism, have been separated from Messiah, you have fallen away from grace.  5. For we are eagerly awaiting, in the Spirit, the hope of righteousness by faith.  6. For in Messiah Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any strength, but faith working through love.
   5:7. You were running well: who kept you from obeying the truth?  8. That kind of persuasion is not from the One Who calls you.  9. A little leaven leavens the whole lump.  10. I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will think nothing else: but the one troubling you will bear the judgment, whoever that would be.  11. But myself, brothers, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then He could set aside the offense of the cross.  12. I would that those who trouble you will also cut themselves off.
   5:13. For you have been called in freedom, brothers: only not freedom in the flesh,  but you are serving one another through love. (2Cor 3:17) 14. For the whole Torah  has found its full expression in one saying, in this “You will love your neighbor as yourself.”  (Lv 19:18 )

The entirety of the Original Covenant is fulfilled through the love of YHVH which HE sent forth upon this earth in the form of Y'SHUA as the Eternal Pesach (Passover) Sacrificial Lamb.(Jn 3:16) We do not take "ANY" part of that as being still "Required" in order to become YHVH's Children! Out of love for YHVH we still do not lie or steal or kill or ect., ect., ect.... Part of that is expressed in that we Do still keep "A" day of worship totally to YHVH but it matters not which day we keep. We are free through Y'SHUA to keep the Jewish Shabbat if we so please or we may keep the Roman/Catholic Sabbath and if we so choose we may keep any other day as our day of rest.

1 Tim  1:8. But we know that the Torah is good, if someone would use it lawfully for himself,  9. as we know this, that Torah is not given for a righteous one, but one heedless of Torah and with rebellious ones, impious and sinners, unholy and profane, who kill their fathers and mothers, murderers   10. fornicators, homosexuals, kidnappers, liars, perjurers, and any other one who acts contrary to sound teaching   11. according to the gospel of the glory of the blessed God, with which I was entrusted.


Ask a Rabbi, a Priest or Pastor what day they keep! It is NOT the same as the congregation. There is no "Requirement" as to which day they keep nor is there one for us but that we are still to keep one for our health and as a sign of our devotion to YHVH as well as an actual practice of our devotion but there is no "legal" requirement as to which day that will be.

Below I quote what you cite as an example of a Man of Lawlessness"...

the word "lawlessness" according to the Greek is:

458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") – properly, without law;

lawlessness; the utter disregard for God's law 

Jesus said in Matt. 7:23,

"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

Matthew 7:23 in the KJV states...

Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It calls them "Workers of iniquity" and not a "Lawless man".

If we look to the Power New Testament it declares in this same passage that this man is...

Mat 7:23. And then I will declare to them that ‘I never knew you: you working without Torah  must continually depart from Me.’”

This is, as your quote states, those who actually "practice" or those who actually do something that is without The Torah. We do not profess such a thing. Living in the love of YHVH is not living without The Torah (YHVH's Instructions) but is living in HIS love as HE expressed it through Y'SHUA.

In the Book of Romans we read...

Rom 8.1. There is therefore now no condemnation for those in Messiah Jesus: 2. for the Torah of the spirit of life in Messiah Jesus set you free from the law of sin and death.  3. For what was impossible for the law by which it was weak because of the resistance of the flesh, God, when He sent His own Son in a likeness of sinful flesh and, concerning sin, God was condemning sin in the flesh, 4. so that the requirement of the Torah could be fulfilled in us, by those who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.  5. For those who are flesh are thinking the things of the flesh, but those according to the Spirit are thinking the things of the Spirit.  6. For the mind-set, thoughts and purposes, of the flesh is death, but the mind-set of the Spirit is life and peace: 7. because the mind-set of the flesh is enmity to God, for it is not subject to the Torah  of God, nor is it really able to submit to God:

We do not keep the commandments of YHVH as "LAW" but as a by-product of our love for YHVH; HIS love for us and as an expression of the leading of The HOLY SPIRIT being alive within us. You may desire to adhere to them as "Law" as being "required" or "forced" upon you but if you do then you are admitting that you are being led by the flesh and not The HOLY SPIRIT and therefore are not a Child of YHVH according to what is written in The Scriptures. This difference is precisely what Jeremiah was speaking of when as you quoted he said...

Also there is no New Covenant without God's law:
Jer 31:33  But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the LORD, I will put My law in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people;

This is also explained in...

Rom 8:12. So then, brothers, we are obligated not to live according to the flesh, 13. for if you would live according to flesh, you are going to die: but if you are dead to the deeds of the body, you will live by the Spirit.  14. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the children of God.  15. For you did not take a spirit of bondage again in fear, but to Whom you took a spirit of adoption as children we cry, “Abba, Father.”  16. The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God. 

The "Commandments" of YHVH are "ALL" of HIS commandments not just one of the 10 Commandments. As a Believer you are to keep them in the SPIRIT not as in "law" being held over or oppressing you. You keep them through the love of Y'SHUA toward your neighbor as I showed above, not by making them a "Law" unto themselves.

Rev 14:12. Here is the need for patient endurance by the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.”

In a discussion similar to the one we are having here Y'SHUA said to a "scribe"; a master of The Torah...

Lk 10:25. Then behold some master of Torah  stood up testing Him saying, “Teacher, what will I have to have done to inherit eternal life?”  26. And He said to him, “What has been written in the Torah?  How do you read it?”  27. And he said, “‘You will love the Lord your God out of your whole heart and with your whole being and with your whole strength’ and with your whole mind, and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’” (Dt 6:5, Lv 19:18)  28. And He said to him, “You answered correctly: you must do this and you will live eternally.”

To James Paul later writes that...

James 2:8. If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scriptures, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” (Lv 19:18) you do well:  9. but if you show partiality, you are working sin, being exposed as a transgressor under the Torah.   10. For whoever would keep the whole Torah but would stumble in one thing, has become guilty of all. 
Thus...if you profess that the Shabbat must be kept on Fri-Sat then you are admitting guilt to keeping one thing of The Torah and therefore held accountable for the entirety of The Torah and not just the 10 Commandments. You therefore must make your daily, monthly and annual sacrifices and you therefore have no sacrifice through Y'SHUA. Take your choice! I choose Y'SHUA and not The Torah "Requirements; Law"! It is in this method that I will be amongst those accepted in Rev 14:12; not by keeping "law" and definitely not by keeping Shabbat alone!


You stated...

John the Revelator has the last word in the final book of the bible.  Your position flies in the face of Jesus the Apostle's and God's own words regarding those in the New Covenant.
As I have demonstrated above, my position adheres precisely with that which ALL of The Scriptures teach and not just some portion which makes my point "LOOK" valid. I was raised under the oppression of the Old Covenant as if it were "Law" but I have been redeemed from the law of sin and death which it spawned. If it were not so then I would have had no reason for Y'SHUA but because of YHVH's love for mankind HE sent HIS Firstborn Son that I might become one of His many Brethren (Brothers) and be a joint heir with Him.

Comment by Deacon Marvin Brown on August 26, 2012 at 10:14am

Dr. E:
   I don't know about you, but I plan on being among those who are saved who in the book of revelation define the saints as those who keep God's commandments:

 Rev. 14:12

Here is the patience of the saints: here are ***they that keep the commandments of God,**  and the faith of Jesus.

The texts you have provided to supposedly prove your point, that we have no law to keep, puts you in the camp of the "Lawless one".  You intentionally do not include these clear texts from the prophets, Jesus and the Apostle John that God will expect us to keep his law in the New Covenant, or to enter into heaven.

Rev. 22:14

Blessed are they that ****do his commandments****, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

John the Revelator has the last word in the final book of the bible.  Your position flies in the face of Jesus the Apostle's and God's own words regarding those in the New Covenant.

There is simply no "LAWLESS" New Covenant.

Comment by Deacon Marvin Brown on August 26, 2012 at 10:06am

Dr. Eric:
    You said "...There is no legal requirement of "law"...
    How is your teaching any different from the prophecied "Man of Lawlessness"

the word "lawlessness" according to the Greek is:

458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") – properly, without law;

lawlessness; the utter disregard for God's law 

Jesus said in Matt. 7:23,

"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

The same word "458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") – properly, without law"

 Jesus accuses those who He casts away as practicers of "lawlessness - anomian.

Also there is no New Covenant without God's law:

In Jer. 31:33 we read in the Hebrew that YHWH is putting His "torah" in the hearts and minds of the New Covenant believers.

8451 direction, instruction, law

SO your position that there is no law for Christians to keep cannot be supported by the either the OT or the NT

Even in the book of revelation, believers are noted for keeping the commandments of God and faith of Jesus


Comment by Dr. Eric Aschendorf, DD,DCS on August 26, 2012 at 4:50am

So you believe that just because there is no one currently observing any event that, that particular event is not what YHVH declared for them to do. Under such a contention then man becomes "god" of themselves.

I do not promote a lunar Shabbat at all. I do not promote any legalistic position. Those who have accepted the sacrifice of Y'SHUA as their Savior now live under the grace of YHVH and not under "rabbinical law" which was man's interpretation of the "instructions" (Torah) of YHVH. The Book of Galatians is written entirely to prove just this statement. Of course if you desire to live under some man-made law, be my guest but then don't claim to be a "Believer" because you are clearly stating that you do not "Believe" the entirety of The Scriptures. Instead you have a "Burger King" religion where you get to pick and choose what you believe.

Paul put it simple when he addressed the Congregation at Corinth when he stated that he came preaching only, "Christ and Him crucified!" (1 Cor 2:2) This is the entirety of the Gospel. There is no legalism added to that. The message is that there is but one and only one YHVH (Deut 6:4-6 and that Y'SHUA was created to be the one and only one sacrifice by which man can be saved from himself. There is no legal requirement of "law" beyond that. No Shabbat requirement. No tithe requirement. No other sacrifice but Y'SHUA!

Mar 7:13  Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Live by any "Law" you want but then don't expect to see the power of YHVH (The HOLY SPIRIT) be manifest in your presence for you will have made that "power" of none effect by your own desires. In addition I would not want to be the one who makes such "requirements" of others for you are then adding to The Word of YHVH and adding burdens to people that YHVH has not, thus making yourself into a god. Burden yourself all that you want, YHVH will not add to the misery you make for yourself but don't drag anyone else into it or HE will intervene at your expense! Y'SHUA lifted the burdens of man-made law if you don't accept what He did then live under all the burden you desire but don't add to The Word of YHVH imposing your will above HIS and onto others or you will suffer the cost of declaring yourself to be god.

Comment by Dr. Eric Aschendorf, DD,DCS on June 16, 2012 at 7:18am

Shalom Sis. Brown,

First lets examine the first point you present along with the point you refer to down in the body of your reply; that being that Y'SHUA kept the Shabbat. Extremely early in His days of ministry Y'SHUA and The Scriptures prove you wrong when it states that...

Mk 2:23. Then it happened on Sabbaths,  He was going through grain fields, and His disciples began along the way to pick the kernels of grain. (Dt 23:26) 24. And the Pharisees were saying to Him, “Do you see they are doing something on Sabbaths which is not permitted?”  25. And He said to them, “Haven’t you ever read what David did when he had a need and he and those with him were hungry,  26. how he entered the house of God in the time of Abiathar the high priest and ate the breads of the presence, which is not permitted except for the priests to eat, and he even gave it to those who were with him?”  27. And He was saying to them, “The Sabbath was made because of man and not man because of the Sabbath.  28. So the Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.”

It was the very fact that Y'SHUA WAS NOT keeping the Shabbat which infuriated the Jews! Legalistic keeping of the Shabbat is bondage pure and simple and that is the point which Y'SHUA made in response to His detractors. It is proven here and as I explained by the example I gave in my first response when I used the Priests and Levites as my example. Y'SHUA proved and in His own way stated that keeping of the Shabbat WAS NOT tied to any one particular day of the calendar week but more to the cycle.  As another example, ask any soldier in The Scriptures when the Shabbat is observed by them and even today they will tell you that it is whenever they can get it!

Y'SHUA DID NOT break the Commandment of YHVH to get a Shabbat rest but He did not require legalistic observance of it either as is proved above. YHVH proved that this was not HIS desire of HIS "instructions" either by all the times of war and/or killing that HE commanded (6th commandment). When we look directly into the Book of Exodus and see what YHVH said rather than what man has said since about the Shabbat we will see that even YHVH DID NOT say that man was to legalistically hold that the Shabbat was tied to a calendar but rather to a number of days when HE stated...

Exo 20:8  Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9  Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work;
Exo 20:10  but the seventh day is a sabbath unto the LORD thy God, in it thou shalt not do any manner of work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy man-servant, nor thy maid-servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates;

If YHVH had wanted to tie the Shabbat to any particular calendar day HE would have made and tied it directly to a named day on a calendar rather than to a number od days or a length of time. Consider this for just a moment; If you were born on Tues on the calendar your seventh day (Shabbat) would be on Mon of the next week! Therefore you are legally tied to observe the Shabbat every Mon of your life. I admit this is ridiculous but it is no more so than requiring a particular day on a calendar when YHVH did not specify it as such.

If you or anyone else "DESIRE" to keep it as one particular day tied to a calendar then that is your burden to bear but not one given by YHVH. You will have chosen to put yourself in bondage to that day but you are NOT to enslave anyone else; that would be a sin!


Another point you present, in a glance, is that we are not to add to or take away from The Scriptures as it states in...
Rev 22:18. I am testifying to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy in this scroll: if someone would add to these things, God will add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll, 19. and if someone would cancel from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will cancel his part in the tree of life and the holy city, of those things that have been written in this scroll. (Dt 4:2, 12:32)

If we take that as legalistically as you statement appears that you might like us to, we are in trouble. If we do, as you desire or should I say "Appear" to desire, then we will not have MOST of The Scriptures for look at where that phrase is first stated in The Scriptures!

Deu 4:2  Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

If we legalistically follow the letter of The Torah then Moses and more importantly, YHVH is cut-off before they can even begin to present us with The Scriptures. STOP: I am not advocating that we need to add anything to what we call the canon of Scripture today but we still can not be so dogmatic about every word of The Scriptures either.


You start of by declaring that...

The last time I checked there were still 10 commandments, not 9, written by the very "finger of God/YHWH", these 10 were not all he wanted us to observe, but are an index to the remainder of his law.

I agree that YHVH gave us 10 but HE did not state that they were to be "legalistically" enforced! The Torah is not "The LAW" as man declares it to be but is YHVH's instructions for life and for a relationship with HIM. The purpose of The Shabbat was to provide instruction for man of a common day to gather and worship YHVH as well as to provide a guideline for rest and recuperation that the body needs. It is YHVH's provision to keep man from wearing himself out prematurely and to keep him from forgetting his CREATOR.

Lastly, I have no problem with keeping the Shabbat on Fri even thru Sat if that is one's desire. I have no problem with keeping it on Sun either. I have only a problem with legalistically tying it to a calendar; a man-made device. If I were born on a Tues then legalistically my Shabbat should be on Mon. If I were born on Fri then legalistically my Shabbat should be Thurs however it is not the letter of The Torah but the SPIRIT of The Torah which is important to YHVH and just as I quoted in my initial response I quote again the words of Y'SHUA when He told the woman at the well...

Jn 4:20. Our fathers worshipped on this mountain: and you say that in Jerusalem is the place where it is necessary to worship.”  21. Jesus said to her, “You must believe Me, ma’am, that a time is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.  22. You worship whom you have not known: we are worshipping Whom we do know, because salvation is by the Jewish people.   23. In fact an appointed time is coming and is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth: for the Father is seeking such as these who worship Him.  24. God is spirit, and it is necessary for those who worship Him to worship in spirit and in truth.”

Be blessed and worship YHVH in SPIRIT and in truth rather than by legal requirement!

Comment by Sis Ann Brown on June 15, 2012 at 9:25pm

Dr. Eric:
The last time I checked there were still 10 commandments, not 9, written by the very "finger of God/YHWH", these 10 were not all he wanted us to observe, but are an index to the remainder of his law.

The Sabbath commandment, commandment # 4, was never rescinded as you will find if you will be come a Berean and search the scriptures and include ALL the OT & NT and prophetic texts that refer to YHWH's commandments, rather than using those that on the surface appear to support your antinomianism.

Jesus Himself observed the Sabbath as an example of how we are to conduct our lives, living by "every word that proceeds from the mouth of YHWH".

Now Jesus in the Great Commission instructed His disciples to teach "whatsoever He commanded", by example and by His command to "keep the commandments" we have no doubt regarding His view on the Sabbath, the ONLY commandment of which He spoke and wrote that we are to "REMEMBER".

Even in the book of Revelation the apostle John writes for us 3 different times the importance of keeping YHWH's commandments. Please note in Rev. 12 & 14, keeping the commandments of YHWH, in addition to those of our Messiah are required:

[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which ***keep the commandments of God***, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that ***keep the commandments of God***, and the faith of Jesus.

[14] Blessed are they that do ***his commandments***, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city
Your statement regarding the Shabbat not being tied to any day of the week, cannot be supported from the Bible, that is merely your own opinion.

Interestingly the Prophet Isaiah, mentioned the observance of the Sabbath continues during the New Heavens and the New Earth in

Is. 66:
22] For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
[23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and
***from one sabbath to another***, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Dr. Eric, do you know something that Isaiah didn't know?   We are not to add nor take away from His word.

The NT texts and the Apostles continued to keep the same Shabbat as their fellow countrymen, as you will see texts posted below.  So could you please provide your scriptural  evidence proving that the Apostles reckoned their Sabbath ***differently*** from their Jewish countryman, which will contradict the texts I am posting?

 [14] But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.

[27] For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

[42] And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

[44] And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

[21] For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every ***sabbath day***.
[13] And on the *sabbath* we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
[2] And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three *sabbath days* reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
[4] And he reasoned in the synagogue every *sabbath*, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Please also note that ALL major denominations admit that the Sabbath was never changed in the Bible, the change came about by the craftyness of men:

Roman Catholic and Protestant confessions about Sunday

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